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Sharyn
Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:52:24 PM

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yes i already noticed..its a hard decision.

maybe i try archer again..

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dexter
Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:30:13 PM

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seem like "which class is best in pvp?" lolz. The answer is: no class sucks, best... all have strong points and weak points. Mages have high dmg, high mg resist..., if they do 2 crit of magic atk, archer will die immediately ^^ also. or if tankers use equipments with high accuracy, archer won't be a matter any more.

When mages have skill lv59, they can build a party and do farm level very very fast, which archer never can do ^^;
Sharyn
Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:01:04 PM

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dexter wrote:
seem like "which class is best in pvp?" lolz. The answer is: no class sucks, best... all have strong points and weak points. Mages have high dmg, high mg resist..., if they do 2 crit of magic atk, archer will die immediately ^^ also. or if tankers use equipments with high accuracy, archer won't be a matter any more.

When mages have skill lv59, they can build a party and do farm level very very fast, which archer never can do ^^;



i guess archer has somthing called "surviveability"...what mages never have as far as i know..^^

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dexter
Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:58:45 PM

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Sharyn wrote:
dexter wrote:
seem like "which class is best in pvp?" lolz. The answer is: no class sucks, best... all have strong points and weak points. Mages have high dmg, high mg resist..., if they do 2 crit of magic atk, archer will die immediately ^^ also. or if tankers use equipments with high accuracy, archer won't be a matter any more.

When mages have skill lv59, they can build a party and do farm level very very fast, which archer never can do ^^;



i guess archer has somthing called "surviveability"...what mages never have as far as i know..^^


Smile There may be more than one name of that skill due to languages... but i guess you guessed right Laughing (don't tell me you guess i guessed you have guessed right)!

In the end, those all distinguish between archer and mage (and others),i.e each race has some powerfull skills that others don't have... or like i said before, each race has strong points and weak points, no one sucks, no one best... :d
Krisis
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 5:37:29 AM

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Each class has there weaknesses and strenghs, But i still think that people underestimate a Mage very much. They can be a real force to be reckoned with.


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Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 6:06:42 AM

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here maybe this will help...

Mage:
-Weaker then any other class at lower levels but excels at higher levels with a fair balance between PvE and PvP.
-Has alot of AoE skills which are very usefull in both PvE and PvP especially When paired with a tank.
-Ability to level extremely fast at higher levels(For example...get a tank and a mage both level 80 then go find a level 85 mob?that the tanker can lure many of to him an survive and then the mage using proper AoE skills finishes off the mob then heals the tank)
-AoE wall function is usefull in PvP where you get enough mages together using AoE's to use the skill as a wall which anything walking through except a heavy tank will most likely die...
-Heal skill since a mage can heal himself and other players their a well rounded character which will make it even more wanted in partys at higher levels

Summoner:
-Extremely strong at lower lvls but weaker at higher levels....in both PvE and PvP
-Suggested Newb Class-
-Very cost effective class as they dont need pots and can make alot from taming pets...
-Hides behind their summon and heals it while also casting spells
-High cast rate but low low damage
-useless without their summon...





Ice_water
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 6:15:39 AM
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XKwisite wrote:

Summoner:
-Extremely strong at lower lvls but weaker at higher levels....in both PvE and PvP
-High cast rate but low low damage
-useless without their summon...

Fox INT (one king of PK)
Mage : only 2 hit of PET , mage die
Yu mang : PET atk 1k+dmg , Fox 1k3dmg
Yu ling : cancel feather shield
Tank : Pet's physic dmg become magic dmg


Krisis
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 6:19:57 AM

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Ice_water wrote:
XKwisite wrote:

Summoner:
-Extremely strong at lower lvls but weaker at higher levels....in both PvE and PvP
-High cast rate but low low damage
-useless without their summon...

Fox INT (one king of PK)
Mage : only 2 hit of PET , mage die
Yu mang : PET atk 1k+dmg , Fox 1k3dmg
Yu ling : cancel feather shield
Tank : Pet's physic dmg become magic dmg


Actually it wouldnt take 2 hits to kill the mage from the pet.
If the mage aimed only for the summoner, its the summoner who would most likely die in 2 hits


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Ice_water
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:50:42 AM
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Krisis wrote:
Actually it wouldnt take 2 hits to kill the mage from the pet.
If the mage aimed only for the summoner, its the summoner who would most likely die in 2 hits

Mage havent physic skill . So cant kill Fox in 2 hit

Calvin
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:06:22 AM
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All I could say is, if mages suck that bad then the class would either be buffed or removed from the game. I mean there isn't any point having that class if no ones going to use it right? It's made for a purpose.
Sharyn
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:06:53 PM

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there is no class that sucks..its always the player who plays the class who sucks^^

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Devonte
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 5:04:18 PM

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Krisis wrote:
Ice_water wrote:
XKwisite wrote:

Summoner:
-Extremely strong at lower lvls but weaker at higher levels....in both PvE and PvP
-High cast rate but low low damage
-useless without their summon...

Fox INT (one king of PK)
Mage : only 2 hit of PET , mage die
Yu mang : PET atk 1k+dmg , Fox 1k3dmg
Yu ling : cancel feather shield
Tank : Pet's physic dmg become magic dmg


Actually it wouldnt take 2 hits to kill the mage from the pet.
If the mage aimed only for the summoner, its the summoner who would most likely die in 2 hits


werefox tend to have robe so good defence against magic and normally have decent health also they can heal and use their exchange skill to get their health back

i've killed mages my lvl without pet without 2 many problems.....
and the stuff about werefox being useless at high lvl um try fight a werefox with a bear with any class you will have serious problems

also they can cancel any buffs or protective shields the other person has

oh and werefoxes do not have low damage

dont get me wrong they do have their disadvantages but i dont know where you got your list from but alot of it is wrong xkwisite

edit:
and mages can get 2 hit killed from werefox pet depending on what it is since they have no phy defence and pets can hit real hard they are alot stronger than normal monsters plus pets get specials as well

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Krisis
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:12:36 PM

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Devonte wrote:
Krisis wrote:
Ice_water wrote:
XKwisite wrote:

Summoner:
-Extremely strong at lower lvls but weaker at higher levels....in both PvE and PvP
-High cast rate but low low damage
-useless without their summon...

Fox INT (one king of PK)
Mage : only 2 hit of PET , mage die
Yu mang : PET atk 1k+dmg , Fox 1k3dmg
Yu ling : cancel feather shield
Tank : Pet's physic dmg become magic dmg


Actually it wouldnt take 2 hits to kill the mage from the pet.
If the mage aimed only for the summoner, its the summoner who would most likely die in 2 hits


werefox tend to have robe so good defence against magic and normally have decent health also they can heal and use their exchange skill to get their health back

i've killed mages my lvl without pet without 2 many problems.....
and the stuff about werefox being useless at high lvl um try fight a werefox with a bear with any class you will have serious problems

also they can cancel any buffs or protective shields the other person has

oh and werefoxes do not have low damage

dont get me wrong they do have their disadvantages but i dont know where you got your list from but alot of it is wrong xkwisite

edit:
and mages can get 2 hit killed from werefox pet depending on what it is since they have no phy defence and pets can hit real hard they are alot stronger than normal monsters plus pets get specials as well


Comparing to the other magic classes the werefox does have lower damage.
And at higher levels mages cant get 2 hit, My friend kills werefoxes with golems easy at level 81 when we go pvping and he is a FaShi. But i guess everything depends on the player, Cause my friends a PVP fanatic so he just focused on that

But even with that, Fashi's are not weak, it would be your loss to underestimate them


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Devonte
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:23:33 PM

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Krisis wrote:

Comparing to the other magic classes the werefox does have lower damage.
And at higher levels mages cant get 2 hit, My friend kills werefoxes with golems easy at level 81 when we go pvping and he is a FaShi. But i guess everything depends on the player, Cause my friends a PVP fanatic so he just focused on that

But even with that, Fashi's are not weak, it would be your loss to underestimate them


i never said they was weak :d

was just pointing out the mistakes in the list and its possible for each one to 2 hit the other i didnt say werefox couldnt be 2 hit

but mages can be 2 hit most classes can maybe your friend cant but if he got double crit from a archer the same lvl i dont see how he can survive.....

and i said bear not golem they useless pvp :d
bees also better than golem pvp all the golem has is phy def and good health thats why werefox use pve but thats not going to help pvp

maybe the people he was killing dont pvp/ are not good at it/ low lvl than him

lol and you said compared to other magic classes i never see a healer od a nuker werefox Think

i never said they was great damage but it isnt weak either

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Ice_water
Posted: Saturday, July 21, 2007 3:42:09 AM
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Krisis wrote:
Comparing to the other magic classes the werefox does have lower damage.
And at higher levels mages cant get 2 hit, My friend kills werefoxes with golems easy at level 81 when we go pvping and he is a FaShi. But i guess everything depends on the player, Cause my friends a PVP fanatic so he just focused on that

But even with that, Fashi's are not weak, it would be your loss to underestimate them

Hight lv , Fox not use golem

k3mistry
Posted: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:14:18 PM
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mages have their uses in certain situations as well as certain areas where by its more effective to tank mage type bosses which deal primarily magic based attacks.

Mages are primarily a support class and in group pvp, they are a very very deadly force to be reckoned with.

i cant say the same though for 1v1 pvp or when the mage gets backstabbed.

a L85+ werebeast with maxed out world annihilation and decent hp pool can 1 hit ko a light armored mage L80+ if the mage isnt fully buffed, and thats not even a crit to begin with. a decent werebeast will take 1-3 hits to ko a mage, a decent L80+ axe/hammer wuxia if he knows wat he is doing will take approximately 3-5 hits depending if he crits or not.

mages are deadly, but deadly only when they are in a party as a support class. thats where they really shine, not in 1v1 pvp.

heavy armored mages are another totally different situation altogether......they are very very hard to beat for the melee type classes.

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Krisis
Posted: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:41:33 PM

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And guys dont shy away from using a mage because OTHER people are telling you they suck.
If in previous games youve enjoyed playing the mage then you should defintly give it a try, and you will see for yourself how strong they can be.


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Ice_water
Posted: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:59:12 PM
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Krisis wrote:
And guys dont shy away from using a mage because OTHER people are telling you they suck.
If in previous games youve enjoyed playing the mage then you should defintly give it a try, and you will see for yourself how strong they can be.

But is is true Brick wall

ranguvar
Posted: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:09:03 PM

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Ice_water wrote:
Krisis wrote:
And guys dont shy away from using a mage because OTHER people are telling you they suck.
If in previous games youve enjoyed playing the mage then you should defintly give it a try, and you will see for yourself how strong they can be.

But is is true Brick wall

No it's not. Mages may get their asses squashed at low levels, but at higher levels, they can do more damage than any other class in the game. Mage+tank in group pvp is a hard to beat combo. Just my 2 cents, everyone has their own opinion. I, for one, shall be playing fashi as I have a feeling that their won't be enough of them end-game, and everyone shall bow down and beg for us to join their parties! :p Nah, but I'm all for playing Fashi and not listening to what everybody else says.


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In most MMOs I've played, mages are always the number one damage dealer. Archers in most games can also match them (like in WoW), but they need skill to match a mage's DPS, mages can pump out damage with ease.

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