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Calvin
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:47:23 PM
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melanchoLy wrote:
@Calvin:

Low con at higher levels: Almost no one is insane enough to do that.

Some mobs that you HAVE to fight to complete quests use magical attacks, and some FBs(instances) are filled with magic casting mobs. Also, certain mobs that you would want to grind on at higher levels (even at level 30+ actually ;x), cast magic attacks too. IMHO, unless you dont want people to party you or want to be 'unique' (and suffer greatly), dont neglect con.(at higher levels of course)

As for your question, Tiger/Dragon leap is a really awesome skill, most people would choose to max them after level 60. Those two and 'Cloud Steps'(not sure about the english name) ensures that you are able to keep up with enemies during PK. With practice, no one can run away from you, so dont worry about that.


Yeah, I generally stated the effectiveness of con. However, dex still plays a major role within the build mainly because Wu Xia gets the most benefit from the stat. However, I wouldn't neglect the fact that con is still important.

As for Tiger/Dragon Leap, thanks for the info. However, my major concern would be how you'll have to catch up to players who never stop running until your on your cooldown for your abilities. Basically, I found it extremely hard to attack players who are in the middle of running, mainly because the casting time to use a melee ability takes way too long to execute and the other player could have already run out of range. I'm nots sure if any other Wu Xia has dealt with this problem, but I have fought players who never stop running and jumping ontop of buildings till all my abilities are on cooldown, then they make their move.
Devonte
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:55:34 PM

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paralyze and stun ftw

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Sharyn
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:05:07 PM

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Devonte wrote:
paralyze and stun ftw


u cant paralyze if player is moving out of ur range..
u have top stop for using spell while player still runs away from you

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Devonte
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:08:51 PM

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Sharyn wrote:
Devonte wrote:
paralyze and stun ftw


u cant paralyze if player is moving out of ur range..
u have top stop for using spell while player still runs away from you


leap forward and paralyse and besides they have to stop to attack you anyway so just special when they do

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Sharyn
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:24:38 PM

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okay but this wont work vs a werefox with pet.

i realy hate the using skill timing of wuxia..this is not instant like it should be imo.
there is always a delay..would be much easier without

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Devonte
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:28:09 PM

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Sharyn wrote:
okay but this wont work vs a werefox with pet.

i realy hate the using skill timing of wuxia..this is not instant like it should be imo.
there is always a delay..would be much easier without


yeah werefox is hard to fight they can just burn and freeze you then run while pet attacks and if you attack pet they nuke you cry

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sprudel
Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:27:30 PM
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I read that for blade/sword weapons you get also ranged skills like for the long weapons, isnt it ? Whats the difference ?
Calvin
Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:56:14 PM
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sprudel wrote:
I read that for blade/sword weapons you get also ranged skills like for the long weapons, isnt it ? Whats the difference ?


The Sword/Blade weapon class has a ranged attack, it takes less time to cast but the range isn't as far.

The Polearm also has a ranged attack, takes longer time to cast but can shoot at a further distance.

Hope this helps.
sprudel
Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:57:46 PM
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Where can i get the infos about the range of attacks and more specific skill describtion, i did found skill list but with not much detail - no range in meters, nothing about stuns (i heard some skills have stuns) ?


btw how you do against archers, i guess thats the natural enemy for melees right ?
Krisis
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 5:41:43 AM

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sprudel wrote:
Where can i get the infos about the range of attacks and more specific skill describtion, i did found skill list but with not much detail - no range in meters, nothing about stuns (i heard some skills have stuns) ?


btw how you do against archers, i guess thats the natural enemy for melees right ?


If the warrior knows what hes doing and has good skills, the they can beat an archer.


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jhaycjhay8
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:01:32 AM
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melanchoLy wrote:
@jhaycjhay8:

Did you level your way to the lvl 89 spear wuxia? You would hardly be able to level after lvl 50+no one would want you in their FB(instances) parties if you go with that first build.

Also, PK skills plays a big factor in Territorial Wars. The right usage and combinations of skills to counter whichever class and its corresponding build = the way to go. (Im assuming both sides are the same level, around the same equipment)
You probably played against new/inexperienced players.(GM spawned their characters?) SS (beastman) wins against whatever builds of warriors 60% of the time(provided they know what to do) after level 60.



are you trying to flame this posts?

why would you think that no one will party me in bboss hunt? im not a tanker.. im a damager.. not a tanker... keep that in your mind.. btw thats my build so dont argue with me and i have tested it. hp stones can keep your hp way up. rather than spending cons.
as i have said i prefer dex rather than cons on wuxia.. simply b'cuz of the hit rate and the critical.. i dont care about my evade cuz magic atack will surly hit you by anychance.

remember that wuxia have sutras. they are the important buffs of wuxia in terms of PvP vs Magic users.

if i am banned at this forum thats fine with me. im just trying to help you see the difference between a tanker and a damager.. yao shou benefits alot on cons.. wuxia benefit alot on dex.. thats why i have a little cons.


Calvin
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:01:22 AM
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I don't think anyone flaming anyones post, rather you two are just stating your opinions :/

I'm glad we're able to see your perspectives but keep an open mind that this is a warrior discussion. Your opinions are welcomed, and if you disagree with someone elses, then tell them why you disagree rather than attempting to degrade them <- not saying anyone has.

@jhaycjhay8: Now that we know that your character is based on damage dealing, you should probably state next time that your character is based on damage rather than survivability.
sprudel
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:55:30 PM
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Krisis wrote:
sprudel wrote:
Where can i get the infos about the range of attacks and more specific skill describtion, i did found skill list but with not much detail - no range in meters, nothing about stuns (i heard some skills have stuns) ?


btw how you do against archers, i guess thats the natural enemy for melees right ?


If the warrior knows what hes doing and has good skills, the they can beat an archer.


Well, what skills are important ? So far i see only aoe skills, direct damage skills and range skills, as well skills for running speed. Is there any page where i can get more detailed informations about wuxia skills with i.e. range of the skills, if they stun etc...the describtion i found are not that much detailed so far.
Devonte
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:07:08 PM

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jhaycjhay8 wrote:
im just trying to help you see the difference between a tanker and a damager.. yao shou benefits alot on cons.. wuxia benefit alot on dex.. thats why i have a little cons.


he is right btw wu xia are made to be dex based and werebeast is con based wuxia are not really supposed to be tankers and when they are they evade more than get hit

against archers you just need to close them down archer get half damage at close range and they do phy damage so the heavy armour protects wu xia from archer

the skills you would use depend on which weapons you choose

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sprudel
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:41:39 PM
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he is right btw wu xia are made to be dex based and werebeast is con based wuxia are not really supposed to be tankers and when they are they evade more than get hit

against archers you just need to close them down archer get half damage at close range and they do phy damage so the heavy armour protects wu xia from archer

the skills you would use depend on which weapons you choose



And where do i get more detailed infos about the skills ? did not find any page with more deep infos of each skill...

Ok lets say i use a sword as weapon, what skills are effective ?
sprudel
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:42:43 PM
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jhaycjhay8 wrote:
melanchoLy wrote:
@jhaycjhay8:

Did you level your way to the lvl 89 spear wuxia? You would hardly be able to level after lvl 50+no one would want you in their FB(instances) parties if you go with that first build.

Also, PK skills plays a big factor in Territorial Wars. The right usage and combinations of skills to counter whichever class and its corresponding build = the way to go. (Im assuming both sides are the same level, around the same equipment)
You probably played against new/inexperienced players.(GM spawned their characters?) SS (beastman) wins against whatever builds of warriors 60% of the time(provided they know what to do) after level 60.



are you trying to flame this posts?

why would you think that no one will party me in bboss hunt? im not a tanker.. im a damager.. not a tanker... keep that in your mind.. btw thats my build so dont argue with me and i have tested it. hp stones can keep your hp way up. rather than spending cons.
as i have said i prefer dex rather than cons on wuxia.. simply b'cuz of the hit rate and the critical.. i dont care about my evade cuz magic atack will surly hit you by anychance.

remember that wuxia have sutras. they are the important buffs of wuxia in terms of PvP vs Magic users.

if i am banned at this forum thats fine with me. im just trying to help you see the difference between a tanker and a damager.. yao shou benefits alot on cons.. wuxia benefit alot on dex.. thats why i have a little cons.





How are you doing versus sword/blade Wuxias, since their weapons are more dex based ?
Merilya
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:19:32 PM

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pretty intresting discussion , i started playing a Wu Xia a few days ago , i pretty much went with STR and Con , leaving Dex a bit aside, seems i did something wrong, i wanted to go Wu Xia with Fist Weapons , i like that style :/. (Im lvl 19 now)
So , i should do no points in con? Just Str and Dex ?
Dont the mobs kill me pretty fast then , i mean now i have like 1000 hp and still have to eat potions all the time to stay alive.
Its really funny to see that you can do so many stuff wrong Brick wall
Devonte
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:22:01 PM

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Merilya wrote:
pretty intresting discussion , i started playing a Wu Xia a few days ago , i pretty much went with STR and Con , leaving Dex a bit aside, seems i did something wrong, i wanted to go Wu Xia with Fist Weapons , i like that style :/. (Im lvl 19 now)
So , i should do no points in con? Just Str and Dex ?
Dont the mobs kill me pretty fast then , i mean now i have like 1000 hp and still have to eat potions all the time to stay alive.
Its really funny to see that you can do so many stuff wrong Brick wall


dex is acc crit and evade so you will hit more often eavde more often and crit more often con is regen and health and a tiny little bit def so more con just means you still use potions more dex mean you use less potions

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Merilya
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:58:03 PM

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Devonte wrote:
Merilya wrote:
pretty intresting discussion , i started playing a Wu Xia a few days ago , i pretty much went with STR and Con , leaving Dex a bit aside, seems i did something wrong, i wanted to go Wu Xia with Fist Weapons , i like that style :/. (Im lvl 19 now)
So , i should do no points in con? Just Str and Dex ?
Dont the mobs kill me pretty fast then , i mean now i have like 1000 hp and still have to eat potions all the time to stay alive.
Its really funny to see that you can do so many stuff wrong Brick wall


dex is acc crit and evade so you will hit more often eavde more often and crit more often con is regen and health and a tiny little bit def so more con just means you still use potions more dex mean you use less potions


So if i wanna do a fist wu xia i have to put on dex not on con, can you tell me a ratio that i should spend the points each lvl up?
I was thinking about 4 in dex, 1 in str, and sometimes 4 in dex, 1 in con oO
Devonte
Posted: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:14:39 PM

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well just make sure you have enougth str for the armour and weapons you want endgame and rest is split mostly dex and some con

my fighter has no con at all and does ok not really much of a tank but is better than the one i made with alot of con

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