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Kael
Posted: Saturday, October 06, 2007 12:19:57 PM

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jhaycjhay8 wrote:
Kael wrote:
well this topic is useless now..to many opinions from tomany people and no facts.

there isnt 1 build! and dex isnt the way to go. get that in ur brains.


lol so u know more? try to play a wuxia or duel with this kind of build then you can post.


i dont know more but im not saying THIS BUILD IS THE WAY TO GO !

aznboi1021
Posted: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:04:39 PM
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Let me try to end this seemly endless topic.

Q1. How good is Dex on Wu Xia
A. Really good, second most benefical from dex, only archers bet them in usage of dex

Q2. How good is Dex vs Mobs?
A. you can never be as good as str-con build, since when mobs comes, your evade is pretty much useless, also magic mobs will own in you seconds.

Q3. Do i need con on my dex wu xia build?
A. i advise you do, but if you some how mircale get by without it, then go ahead. Like the person before with her build, she only had 17 con. So yeah, depends on how you play

Q4. Is there a best build?
A. HELL NO, there is no such thing, there maybe guides for you to follow, such as 3 - 1 - 1, or 2-2-1, its really really up to you. When it comes down to how much con, dex, or str you need. This is wat makes it unqiue, if you try to chase after everyone build, its no fun. Sure you be one hell of a good player, but would you want to create your own path or follow someone else?

Q5. Dex vs Str, PVP who would win
A. No doubt, dex will win, once level start moving toward the 30+, the evade and hit rate for dex, is going to be trouble for the str-con build. So dex will totally win, after level 40 ish, but really depends on luck. Sometimes i get lucky, and they miss ^^

Q6. Wow, dex sound so good, i must go dex then, right?
A. Not really, they level rather slow, and hp and def is poor. For party, you know you would be on the front line much. Like the Baseball they have a DH, a person meant just for hitting homeruns. You might be that person, the DAMAGER, you cant tank or do anything, but if you can dish out damage, you might get invited. So far, i heard that spear is pretty good damager, also range is killer. But remember, you can never level as fast or be as popular as a AOE wu xia.

Q7. Is there any benefits from being dex?
A. sure, you weapons are cheaper on the market, you would be a good pvp later on, if you like being a speed demon, here you class. There is some benefits for being a dex user, but not alot.

So final words. THERE IS NO SET BUILD, DEX IS GOOD IN SOME CASE, STR-CON is BETTER IN OTHERS. STR-CON IS AOE, and can hybrid to be spear also. DEX IS PVP, and its FINAL. If you are trying to find a build that gets the MOST OUT OF DEX, then look for wing archers, because dex also affects damage for them. so dex is BEST FOR THEM. Dex is good for wu xia too, but those are my final words.
rpgalon
Posted: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:35:02 PM
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That's what I like, Thanks aznboi1021; but my question is how many dex we need to hit 80-100% a wuxia with 4000 flee, I've never played before, what i want to know is: Hit have some advantage againest flee or this are like 1 hit for 1 flee, how can I calculate my hit againest the enemy flee in %. Some games we need only 1 hit for 2 flee.

another question
Can someone tell me, all the itens with some hit or dex bonus, they prices and requisits to use PLZ
Pray
Kael
Posted: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:56:42 PM

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aznboi1021 wrote:
Let me try to end this seemly endless topic.

Q1. How good is Dex on Wu Xia
A. Really good, second most benefical from dex, only archers bet them in usage of dex

Quote:
well nothing new but still doesnt answers the question we have here.


Q2. How good is Dex vs Mobs?
A. you can never be as good as str-con build, since when mobs comes, your evade is pretty much useless, also magic mobs will own in you seconds.

Quote:
yes dex builds have more problems outpotting magical dmg like str-con wuxias.


Q3. Do i need con on my dex wu xia build?
A. i advise you do, but if you some how mircale get by without it, then go ahead. Like the person before with her build, she only had 17 con. So yeah, depends on how you play

Quote:
Have fun in TW with that build. instant kill ftw..if u get hit.


Q4. Is there a best build?
A. HELL NO, there is no such thing, there maybe guides for you to follow, such as 3 - 1 - 1, or 2-2-1, its really really up to you. When it comes down to how much con, dex, or str you need. This is wat makes it unqiue, if you try to chase after everyone build, its no fun. Sure you be one hell of a good player, but would you want to create your own
path or follow someone else?

Q5. Dex vs Str, PVP who would win
A. No doubt, dex will win, once level start moving toward the 30+, the evade and hit rate for dex, is going to be trouble for the str-con build. So dex will totally win, after level 40 ish, but really depends on luck. Sometimes i get lucky, and they miss ^^

Quote:
agree.. but if the high str/con wuxia lands some nice hits with a crit maybe u get some problems.


Q6. Wow, dex sound so good, i must go dex then, right?
A. Not really, they level rather slow, and hp and def is poor. For party, you know you would be on the front line much. Like the Baseball they have a DH, a person meant just for hitting homeruns. You might be that person, the DAMAGER, you cant tank or do anything, but if you can dish out damage, you might get invited. So far, i heard that spear is pretty good damager, also range is killer. But remember, you can never level as fast or be as popular as a AOE wu xia.

Q7. Is there any benefits from being dex?
A. sure, you weapons are cheaper on the market, you would be a good pvp later on, if you like being a speed demon, here you class. There is some benefits for being a dex user, but not alot.

Quote:
good pvper ? yes but dont think u always gonna pvp vs wuxias..dex wuxia vs a mage/nuker/fox archer is a do not want situation. why should weapon be cheaper on market? ut alking about fists/claws?


So final words. THERE IS NO SET BUILD, DEX IS GOOD IN SOME CASE, STR-CON is BETTER IN OTHERS. STR-CON IS AOE, and can hybrid to be spear also. DEX IS PVP, and its FINAL. If you are trying to find a build that gets the MOST OUT OF DEX, then look for wing archers, because dex also affects damage for them. so dex is BEST FOR THEM. Dex is good for wu xia too, but those are my final words.


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agree
StrifeBlazin
Posted: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:23:17 AM

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jhaycjhay8 wrote:
str = 186

i dont have any diffuculty when it come to dugeons.

dex = hit rate, eva rate , critical (helps alot vs PvP ) and PvM agaisnt melee mobs

PvP and PvM are almost the same.
I use normal attack + buddah (if i need life) to conserve pots ^^,

i prefer not to have a high cons

cons are only good for yao shou.
and dex are good in wuxia

higher cons for wuxia = less chance of hitting, greater chance to be hit by enemy , high HP
High dex wuxia = greater chance of hitting, less chance to be hit by enemy, a sustainable HP


again.. dex pls...

more dex, less cons, str = req weapons and arm0rs



I agree with this =] I prefer dodging and dealing massive damage rather than receiving damage with high hp. Plus, can't you just pot like crazy?

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Posted: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:14:40 AM
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heavy armor + spear doesn't leave much if any points left over for con. i'm not sure what this build is called though. str/dex + some con?
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Posted: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:43:54 PM

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what i found for an affective spear pvp build , is a spear user that can use a sword at anytime...meaning that they should have enough dex to weild a sword at any point..
this is what many ppl did in the PH version and they said it was very good in pk/pvp

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Posted: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:27:13 PM
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con type is best for tanking a mobs or boss, dex type are only 4 pvp 1on1 pvm and for TW fist type are the assasins, they will sneak behind the enemies and kill the priests and mages. fist type mdef and hp are very weak but if they come close to you you are sure dead because of tons of stun and critical damage specially if the build was pure DEX and STR only NO CON... hehehe... im a pure DEX fist type wu xia...

dodger type = has the advantage on duels (like me)
con type = has an advantage leveling(can mob)

it really depends on the situation...
jhaycjhay8
Posted: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:00:11 AM
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as u can see.. im mobbing... while chatting.. thats how effective a dex wuxia spear-axe is...
after gathering the m0bs... ill use knockback skill to push the mobs.. then use an AOE skills then another aoe skill follows then knockback again...


(knockback skill)
this is very effective rather than having a high cons... even high lvled players are asking me about my lvl and when i said my lvl 70.. they where amazed


most of them in this spot are all lvl 80+ mobbing..

pls.. pls... dont underestimate dex...

you can get your cons pump up by having +cons items... and this helps alot.. for this are free stats from items..

all clear?

peace!
lordfin
Posted: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:47:55 AM

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WTF that looks real nice how the hell do you do that
can i see some stats and such I love your build but i'll get a bit more Con and less DEX :P and 1 thing this is off topic but is it worth it to add extra STR or doens't it add that much + ATCk ??? cuz frow what i've seen it doesn't give you that much of + ATK
and do you still get hit alot by mobs i mean Wink ??? and do u use axe 2 ??? and wich 1 do you prefer n mobbing ??? it seems you've got a real solid build
and you're not using any HP charms ?

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Im sorry but str/dex wu xias can never mob.... believe me they cannot mob/tank at all.. I am a lvl 81 hammer type (from PH server) my build is STR/CON, even I have problems tanking against bosses and high level mobs. Your evade would do jackshit against mobs especially magic ones let alone the big bosses. Surely DEX type wuxias own in PK/PVP thats a given fact already, but in PVM and TW, STR/CON is the way to go. I am halfway towards my spear stats already, all I need is a little more dex to wield high lvl spears but my STR and CON are already at high numbers.
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How come she can tank that many mobs and 10 lvls higher 2 then ??? i'd love to know And people don;t play like TW all the times right ??? it's not that often so i'd go for more like a 5on5>1on1 and everythign between with a dex/str build and a bit of con...:P

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i can't see the weapon but i think it is spear, look at the skills....
I have one question: you are saying that wu xia based in DEX/AGI level more fast than a wu xia based in CON?
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jhaycjhay8 wrote:
as u can see.. im mobbing... while chatting.. thats how effective a dex wuxia spear-axe is...
after gathering the m0bs... ill use knockback skill to push the mobs.. then use an AOE skills then another aoe skill follows then knockback again...


(knockback skill)
this is very effective rather than having a high cons... even high lvled players are asking me about my lvl and when i said my lvl 70.. they where amazed


most of them in this spot are all lvl 80+ mobbing..

pls.. pls... dont underestimate dex...

you can get your cons pump up by having +cons items... and this helps alot.. for this are free stats from items..

all clear?

peace!
from this pic, it seem it take u forever to kill those? cuz u doing 1.1 damage and the mob hp barely move.
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Naww it's all good

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Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2007 7:12:41 AM

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Dex is overrated.

4l3xX
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washburn, you are saying that dex is overrated, but there are no one ring that give the same but for evade?
EX: a ring that give +30/50% evade?
washburn
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4l3xX wrote:
washburn, you are saying that dex is overrated, but there are no one ring that give the same but for evade?
EX: a ring that give +30/50% evade?


I have seen once a ring +10%eva +10%eva but it quite rare i think. Most prolly you'll be able to craft a ring +10%eva +dex. I have tried with a Yu Mang friend with 5000 eva Vs me with 1700 Hit (I could kill him in 2 skill hits). I got like 81% hit rate with just normal attack. Evasion is only effective against Str/Con types. And still you won't be able to dodge all of their attacks. Good luck dodging those magic types. A level 90 yu ling(priest) Hits me at around 3.1k and a level 80 fa shih(mage) hits me at around 1.8k with a single spell. And i had full magic def buff and complete elemental def.
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From that pic the char is already spamming his pots like crazy, and he would take forever to kill all those mobs......... that I am sure of... for sure y=that char is equipped with an amulet and most probably have healing support. Because by doing what he is doing in that screenie, he won't last very long....
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