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Well i was just reading in a thread about Wu xia Builds and found a quote that confused me abit. I need som answers :D here the quote Quote:Hammer/Axe Builds Wuxias have lower accuracy then sword/blade/fist/polearm wuxias, they make up for their lower accuracy with high dmg aoes and attacks. Hammer/Axe Builds has excellent aoes, best amongst the melee builds out there. To be honest, against mobs, accuracy is overrated near the end game, having 80+% accuracy against mobs are almost good enough, and if u plan on soloing with AOEs as a axe/hammer build, they are incredibly fast killers as compared to other aoe builds.
Accuracy is more an apparent glaring factor when it comes to pvp. Most Wuxia builds should not have any problem wearing the best heavy armors. As a Axe/Hammer wuxia, evasion will not be a problem, your def/hp if u go with the con build will be more than enough to make up for the lower evasion. Evasion works only for high dex builds, some evasion is as good as none. Its more efficient to have one or two excellent stats than to have a bunch of averaged out stats.
by the way, what do u mean by the evasion a dex based wuxia like a double sword one would have. if u take a look at the requirements of the heavy armors, their str requirements is NOT exactly that high as comparatively speaking to that of axe/hammer weapons. Dex based wuxias such as sword/fists builds will have lower def, but not because they cant wear the same type of heavy armor a hammer/axe build has....in fact all wuxias regardless of builds will have enough str to wear the heaviest armors in game. The deciding factor here which separates the builds are DEF (based off Str and gear), HP (based off Gear, Con and Build), Eva (based off Gear and Dex/build) and Dmg ( Based off Gear , Str/Build). What i am tryign to say here that any wuxia , even dex builds can wear heavy armors, str and Gears here are the factor as to who has the higher def as well as the character lvl. a L80 sword/blade wuxia can wear the same type of heavy armor as a L80 axe/hammer wuxia but have lower defense than the axe/hammer simply because of 2 reasons, axe/hammer wuxia has better gears or if same gears, simply because the axe/gear has more STR. But lower eva due to less dex..... 1. Its said accuracy is overrated cause there are rings wich give +30% and +50% +HIT. How can i be effective with low dex in PvP at lower lvls without those rings? Im going for Dual-Axe and my build would be: STR 300 CON 167 DEX 68 I would use +mdef stones for equip..cause CON alone wont save me from mage dmg + HIT items for better hitrate. What lvl can i get those +30% / 50% + HIT Rings? What u think about this build? Am i completely wrong? i havent played for months and have no past lvl 30 expirience. 2. The guys says that Evasion only works on high dex builds. How high should dex be so i can feel dex working? Played high dex wuxia and i didnt notice a change compared to balanced str/dex wuxia.. Thx in Advance!
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Joined: 8/12/2007 Posts: 105 Location: Canada
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Your builds sounds perfectly fine, mdef stone's good as well. Although they look ugly >.<... And i don remember about the stats. W/e str and dex needed to use the dual axe, rest all into con. After you reach lvl 60-70, starts thinking about adding more dex to use spears, as u'll be using axe/spear both to aoe later on.
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Quote: 2. The guys says that Evasion only works on high dex builds. How high should dex be so i can feel dex working? Played high dex wuxia and i didnt notice a change compared to balanced str/dex wuxia..
if you are referring to PVM, i dont think evasion works much. as for PVP, i think it works. i have lvl 27 wu xia and i dueled a 27 yao shou and he could barely hit me. my wu xia is STR DEX, only 15 CON lol
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Joined: 8/21/2007 Posts: 22 Location: PG
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Barely hit you, but if he hits u, there goes 1/3 ur hp.
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I want to know 2, how many dex points we need to have a good flee vs yaoshou and axe/spear wuxia with no hit ring (30%-50% hit bonus).
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rpgalon wrote:I want to know 2, how many dex points we need to have a good flee vs yaoshou and axe/spear wuxia with no hit ring (30%-50% hit bonus). 5k
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Joined: 9/28/2007 Posts: 28 Location: brazil
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omg!! so we need 500 dex to hit this guy? so i will never hit him because in lvl 100 my hit is only 1200 no ring or magic stone can help me hit, this flee is amazing(and awful)
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how would you get 5k = 5,000 dex points?
con vs dex? which one has better pay off? Or what's a good balance to shoot for?
It's been said that 5 con is not enough, so how much con by what level?
Or put it all in dex?
I have yet to see the answer presented on forum.
Str needed appears to be gear based and +3 per level so that part is given.
Con and dex remains a mystery to me. Dex may be required for spear use after a given level, which through in yet another variable...
And since there is no perfect build, I will say I'd prefer one that is good for pk and "ok" for leveling.
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Joined: 5/18/2007 Posts: 57 Location: under the sink
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 heres my build on a dex based wuxia (spear) going to a spear-axe (hybrid) no cons! i got my cons at 5 ^^, 12cons from items ehehehe
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can u clarify what your str is i'm not sure is it 186
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How hard do you find leveling with 4 con? Also, do you have any difficulty doing dungeons? Do you get enough critical hits to feel that the extra dex is helping? I ask because i am interested in your build.
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str = 186
i dont have any diffuculty when it come to dugeons.
dex = hit rate, eva rate , critical (helps alot vs PvP ) and PvM agaisnt melee mobs
PvP and PvM are almost the same. I use normal attack + buddah (if i need life) to conserve pots ^^,
i prefer not to have a high cons
cons are only good for yao shou. and dex are good in wuxia
higher cons for wuxia = less chance of hitting, greater chance to be hit by enemy , high HP High dex wuxia = greater chance of hitting, less chance to be hit by enemy, a sustainable HP
again.. dex pls...
more dex, less cons, str = req weapons and arm0rs
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Joined: 9/27/2007 Posts: 21 Location: Germany
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well this might be your opinion..not everyones else.
i met 3 lvl 4x wuxias in CB who had the same build like me basicly..
extreme high str..con like 1/3 of str and dex only up to weapon req and they are satisfied with their build.
all 3 inclusive me were axe/mace wuxias.
im 37 now and i dont feel like i miss any hitrate.
i got insane defense and like 2k hp..
i realy cant imagine how u fight versus magic attack mobs. dex is useless vs magic.and ur hp is very low.
ur a 1 shot for almost every class
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Wuxia can't be good vs every class, dex is good againest melee and con againest magik this is the truth and no one can kill everything this is what i think...
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Joined: 10/2/2007 Posts: 19
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does STR defense have any defense against magic?
i've heard of magic defense items you can use in game, (heard, haven't started warrior until open beta, just gathering viewpoints) this could be more effective than even adding con.
it seems from a melee standpoint 3 pts str/ 2 pts dex would be the way to go. i think the extra STR and DEX would more than compensate for any con additions.
however, i am thinking you would have issues with magic attack (and you should), and then what about archers they have massive dex so they aren't gonna miss.
again these are just thoughts, i am trying to get educated.
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and again the question comes up, how much con is effectively needed.
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Joined: 5/18/2007 Posts: 57 Location: under the sink
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no comment T_T but pls dont underestimate this build. remember that wuxia have sutras to support mdef. higher cons means your "willing" to absorb a huge dmg from m0bs. << costly
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I just beat a 43+ wx as a 38 boxer, not sure on his build though.
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well this topic is useless now..to many opinions from tomany people and no facts.
there isnt 1 build! and dex isnt the way to go. get that in ur brains.
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Kael wrote:well this topic is useless now..to many opinions from tomany people and no facts.
there isnt 1 build! and dex isnt the way to go. get that in ur brains. lol so u know more? try to play a wuxia or duel with this kind of build then you can post.
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