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My Wuxia is only Lv.15, and im considering of taking the path of Claw/Fist weapons.
It kinda looks like that they have a great potential....since Claw/Fist wuxias will be Dex-based...this would mean that they will be doing Criticals....and pair that with the attack speed of Claw/Fist....you will be Critting like crazy, right? Doesnt anybody want this? Im aware that Claw/Fist's damage sucks, but with its attack speed, you will be attacking like 3-4 times for every 2 attacks of maybe a dual sword....does it not make up for that? e.g. dual sword damage 100; claw/fist 60 (but you attack/hit more)....thus, sword damage: 2x100=200; claw/fist:3x60=180 or 4x60=240...not bad, right?
So...im just wondering why there isnt much Claw/Fist Wuxias around?
Need your comments....while im still deciding on what path to take for my Wuxia. Thanks ahead.
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It's not as cool.
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fredal wrote:My Wuxia is only Lv.15, and im considering of taking the path of Claw/Fist weapons.
It kinda looks like that they have a great potential....since Claw/Fist wuxias will be Dex-based...this would mean that they will be doing Criticals....and pair that with the attack speed of Claw/Fist....you will be Critting like crazy, right? Doesnt anybody want this? Im aware that Claw/Fist's damage sucks, but with its attack speed, you will be attacking like 3-4 times for every 2 attacks of maybe a dual sword....does it not make up for that? e.g. dual sword damage 100; claw/fist 60 (but you attack/hit more)....thus, sword damage: 2x100=200; claw/fist:3x60=180 or 4x60=240...not bad, right?
So...im just wondering why there isnt much Claw/Fist Wuxias around?
Need your comments....while im still deciding on what path to take for my Wuxia. Thanks ahead. Look p.atk of claw weapon . Alway have half dmg with other weapon
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Human nature prefers brute force. Go figure.
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Joined: 7/28/2007 Posts: 29 Location: UK
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Think about it,
If a guy has 1000 defence
Your attack with claw is like 950
Your Attack with dual sword is like 1200
Dual sword = 200 damage a hit x 2 = 400 Claw = 1 damage a hit x 4 = 4
I know the numbers are well off but it was just to illustrate my point.
Although again mages claws ftw? they get alot of stop casting skills / disruption ones
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Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 6 Location: Philippines
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Arael wrote:Think about it,
If a guy has 1000 defence
Your attack with claw is like 950
Your Attack with dual sword is like 1200
Dual sword = 200 damage a hit x 2 = 400 Claw = 1 damage a hit x 4 = 4
I know the numbers are well off but it was just to illustrate my point.
Although again mages claws ftw? they get alot of stop casting skills / disruption ones
Claw crit attack = 950x2 = 1900 +Burst = 4600 Claw type can attack faster adn can generate cp much faster also with a crit build in can do massive damage even though its physical attack power is only half as other also they won't hit you that much
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jefrey83 wrote:Arael wrote:Think about it,
If a guy has 1000 defence
Your attack with claw is like 950
Your Attack with dual sword is like 1200
Dual sword = 200 damage a hit x 2 = 400 Claw = 1 damage a hit x 4 = 4
I know the numbers are well off but it was just to illustrate my point.
Although again mages claws ftw? they get alot of stop casting skills / disruption ones
Claw crit attack = 950x2 = 1900 +Burst = 4600 Claw type can attack faster adn can generate cp much faster also with a crit build in can do massive damage even though its physical attack power is only half as other also they won't hit you that much Remember , can't evade magic , have never miss skill
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Joined: 7/11/2007 Posts: 98 Location: Germany
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u know whats mainstream? ^^ thats why
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Claw's bad for lvling, you have to kill monster 1 by 1. In FB no one'll want you. Later stages you'll start learning little money. These are the bad things Good things are, cheap golden weapons, save money (pot money)
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Joined: 10/6/2007 Posts: 1
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Ice_water wrote:jefrey83 wrote:Arael wrote:Think about it,
If a guy has 1000 defence
Your attack with claw is like 950
Your Attack with dual sword is like 1200
Dual sword = 200 damage a hit x 2 = 400 Claw = 1 damage a hit x 4 = 4
I know the numbers are well off but it was just to illustrate my point.
Although again mages claws ftw? they get alot of stop casting skills / disruption ones
Claw crit attack = 950x2 = 1900 +Burst = 4600 Claw type can attack faster adn can generate cp much faster also with a crit build in can do massive damage even though its physical attack power is only half as other also they won't hit you that much Remember , can't evade magic , have never miss skill Yea but doesn't the medium armor gear (the one that requires larger amounts of dex) give a lot larger amount of MDEF compared to the heavy armor gear that a axe/hammer Wuxia would be using. Personally I think that the whole high dex = bad against mage thing is crap. Because there is no way a Strength Wuxia could possibly ever have as much MDEF as a DEX Wuxia simple because of the gear differences.
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Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 35 Location: USA
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ok, the point is that dex wu xia is only good for pvp and 1 on 1, which has more downside to them then str-con build. Lets take a look
Dex:
Pro: Fast, really really Fast Crics are always nice Nice Hit Rate Good Dodge
Con: Low damage
High hit rate is never really need agianst monsters
low hp
magic defense wouldnt matter, on count that mage will hit you hard anyways, might as well have more con to survive the hits
hard to level, so if you are planning to go on a level race agianst your friend, expect yourself to level slower then he does, if he isnt a fist build
Str-Con:
Pro: if you are heavy weapon, really really good AOE
high hp, thats means can last longer agianst magic mobs then dex
speed isnt a factor, on count that they can skill spam
earn money easy, because they can kill mobs
higher defence
Higher damage
Con: Low hit and evade
crics are rare
arent pvp material, more of a PVM
So bottom line is, Str-Con with glavie, axe, or etc is more PVM and Dex wu xia, such as claws is PVP. Im not saying Dex is bad, its good in higher level, but its the question if you want to level slower and get the reward of a good character later,and not being a part of PVM quest and earning party. So what i suggest is, make a good money making character, i.e werefox, or an aoe character. so you can support your fist wu xia with ease
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Joined: 8/20/2007 Posts: 198 Location: Philippines
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have u seen a fist type in PVP action? can the speed of hit intervals overcome the damage that axes/blades can inflict?
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Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 35 Location: USA
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personally it doesnt matter, i fought at level 21 agianst a level 19 fist, thought its some level difference, i won by a mile. So early stage, the evade of a claw wu xia is not much to brag about. So speed is not the factor actually, since most of the power from the wu xia class is from skills. Its the evade and hits they get, also cric possiblity that makes them a threat. But they lack major hp and def, i won by 3/4 health.
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Joined: 10/8/2007 Posts: 17 Location: on the other side of the world
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Well maybe becouse they want to start using fists/claws in OB just like me, becouse Fist/Claw warriors will be strong in higher lvls and you cant really get high in 2 weeks.
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in simple words... nobody wants claws or fists cuz they r for little kids who watch to much WWF.. real men fight with big axes, hammers or blade/swords other then that 1) there weak 2) they look lame 3)claws/fist+solo is super hp potter 4) why have amszing fast weapons if you cant solo a single mob without a pot anyway there fast though... and u can prolly dodge a lot of attacks... but thats the only thing loudmouth of Wikiperia   thnx Nimriel for clan logo+siggy (^^,)
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aznboi1021 wrote:personally it doesnt matter, i fought at level 21 agianst a level 19 fist, thought its some level difference, i won by a mile. So early stage, the evade of a claw wu xia is not much to brag about. So speed is not the factor actually, since most of the power from the wu xia class is from skills. Its the evade and hits they get, also cric possiblity that makes them a threat. But they lack major hp and def, i won by 3/4 health. i dont know who you faced but they were sorry because my claw wuxia can beat any other wuxia the same lvl. I just know how to equip right
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because at low level, their dex doesnt make a big difference to me. I can still skill them, so speed is not a factor in here. Also, you might attack twice as fast, but if i do 3 times as much damage on you, bascially i win. Also, if you have lower level armor and lower str then me, and i buff. i may have twice or if not maybe 500+ more defence point on you. So yeah, sure i may miss a few times, but i can cric and dodge too, just not as much as you guys do. And havent you figure it out?!!!! Low level doesnt have that much of an impact, also like a heavy sledgehammer, i might be slow, but if i brush you just a hair on your head or ribs, you going to feel the pain.
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Pretty much first time playing PW so... I played a boxer in the cob whatever event and got up to 41. I can't really say much because it's still not enough to play with imo. Anyway, i'll try to keep things short on my opinions but I'm still pretty new to game. 1v1 - great vs melee during 1-40, not sure about past since I didn't lvl far enough. Hard to fight against casters, again new to this sort of pvp so, could be wrong. PvE - meh. Mixed feelings, even with 30% dodge still getting hit a lot. Always broke due to buying potions. Dodge worthless during bosses, not a whole lot of AOE's for parties later on. Can't tank. FB's - I really didnt do anything but stun during mobs, during bosses just let it auto attack while using my fury skill. Using skills as fist just lowered my dps because of the cast time imo. I'll probably play a boxer during ob, not sure yet. Dunno what to add right now...anyway my pdef is a joke huh :P Durability+ is such a worthless stat btw...wish it wasn't there.
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PW based on skills, not attacks. Claw/fist is made for speed, not skills. End of Story
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i think fist wu xia's are nice  i read a post saying that if a wu xia gets 12% crit he/she will get a crit every 4 hits and i think this makes the fist wu xia deadly in close range coz crits cancel skills ^^ as for def when matched with another wu xia or yao shou... evade kicks in. the biggest con in this is lvling or fighting mobs :S
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