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Sol
Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:09:07 PM

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Nah, you can still achieve 300int with LA if you're smart about it.


PW is a dead game, full of backstabbers who only pretend to be your friend. Meanwhile, they only want one thing, to take over a guild you've worked hard in creating. ^_^
Reztacio
Posted: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:14:24 PM
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pure int mage ftw Dancing



Beck
Posted: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:52:23 PM

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ya pure int mage got the most damage and the most sp, but he cannot deal with physical attacks at all.
while int con mage can at least take a little damage and light mage/ heavy mage have defense to aid them to make up for the low hp.
Kanzler
Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2007 3:54:26 AM
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Ice_water wrote:
I will become Pure INT mage ^_^


Because you use Mage FULL INT and recommend Light Mage?
Ice_water
Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:45:11 AM
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Kanzler wrote:
Ice_water wrote:
I will become Pure INT mage ^_^


Because you use Mage FULL INT and recommend Light Mage?

No

DeeTee
Posted: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:16:08 AM
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I think the thing is, as a mage you won't ever be able to deal with physical damage very well, even if you bump str and con. So, you need to accept this fate, and concentrate on the fact that the warrior won't really be able to defend your attacks very well either. Max int is the best. It's hilarious, you know that quest killing the skeleton marksman? Well, you watch warriors hit them for 10 seconds, whilst the int mage can kill steal all of them.
Gawayne
Posted: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:30:23 AM
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Fact is the Mage in PW is the classic Glass Cannon. Your job as a Mage is to insane dmg widespread all over the battlefield, no one can do it batter than you and everyone expect you to do so, poeple want a Mage in the group to do that, want some in your guild to do that. Mages are the class who REALLY do the killing be it in guild wars or on your daily leveling party. No one, no matter how hard they try, will ever do as much damage as a Mage becausa the Mage class was designed for the sole purpouse of wrecking havoc.

But they're fragile, they need constant care and protection, like someone else on this thread already told "They die as fast as they kill". The Mage player can't give himself the option of being hit, like the Archer or Priest player can, because if you're hit, you're dead. A Mage player need to learn how to avoid attacks in every way possible, you run, you jump, you fly, you hide behind the WuXia or the Weretiger, you do whatever it takes to avoid being hit and from your confortable spot you bombard the battlefield with fire, ice and falling mountains.

Like DeeTee said "I think the thing is, as a mage you won't ever be able to deal with physical damage very well, even if you bump str and con.". If you want a ranged, more dmg tolerating class, you should pick Archer or Priest because those classes are designed for that. You don't send and engineer to do a lawyers job. But i do believe that a benefit curve exists, i don't have enough experience in PW to say it for sure, but i think there is a point where putting more INT won't do as much good as getting those points and putting in CON or DEX. The question is how much INT is too much INT?
DeeTee
Posted: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:48:20 AM
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At the moment, I am about level 15, with 70 int. I have about 1500 mana, and it's the right amount for grinding.

I can sit there killing stuff for ages taking minimal damage. Half the time they don't get close enough. I'm killing stuff that takes 2 - 3 hits. Like those lynx for the turmoil quest. Yes, I am not killing stuff my own level. I am slowing my levelling down, so that I can pull the most amount of soulstone fragments from the turmoil quests.

I think the point is, rather then concentrate on tanking, concentrate on forcing other players to tank. The mage is crap in dueling though, terrible at close range. But, I am practically stealing kills every day from players who refuse to party. The problem though is the warrior can tank monsters of a higher level and move ahead to level faster at the start, but you should see how many soft feathers I pickup in a day. I am raking in the cash, like it was falling from tree's.
Kanzler
Posted: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 6:10:03 AM
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Then Light Mage really is better that FULL INT in all the directions?
Peanut
Posted: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 6:20:13 AM
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Doing pure int, and it's perfectly fine. Also in PvP, you're going to die no matter what. It doesn't matter if you scrounged up a little extra defense, so you get two shotted, so what? PvE wise, pure int is doing great for me and I level with ease solo. I always end up running out of mana before my health.

When you're a mage in PvP, your only objective is to do as much damage as fast as you can without being noticed. Light armor will get left behind in damage and will still get noticed and killed.
Gawayne
Posted: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:06:17 PM
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Today i did the Cave of Fire dungeon with a group composed by me, a lvl 21 Mage, 3 lvl 25 WuXias and a lvl 30+Weretiger. I have around 500hp, the Wuxias around 1500 and the Weretiger around 3000 but i'm happy to announce that i did as much DPS as the Weretiger or all the Wuxias.

Of course you have to know what you're doing, i had to wait them pull the aggro and had to be absolutely sure that a monsters was alrady attacking one of them, after that all i had to do is causa loads of dmg.
zhaowei
Posted: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:11:10 AM

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hello, first of i would like to say.. im proud to be a mage class..

bout mage build, yep, thats right, i agree, constant damage is better than crit..

i prefer the pure int build.. you can make your def high by puting crimson soulstones on your armors (i prefer 4 slots to put more def)then use armor of earth to add more def..

bout town war, try to think bout this, "how can they kill me (a fashih) if they cant see me??" try to do sniping. you stil got your leap skill to escape atacks in case they get near to you.. before i get killed in a TW, i make sure i kill, 20 or more players. with low mdef, some of them is just 2 hits or 3, then click another enemy in range with skills, then back, then click again, then back...

try to get a wu xia, and a yao shou to get buffs incresing HP and def..

with gud playstyle, i say, mage a perfect killing machine.

VERSATILE CLAN (PH dragon)
Shuhei_Hisagi
Posted: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:18:13 AM

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Even the Heavy Armor Fa Shih is the correctly named "Glass Cannon" just no longer is it weak against the Physical Attacks as much as Robes, but now if you go against a Fa Shih you are toast. Pure Int/Con is the way to go, enough Con to survive while leveling and maybe to take 1 PVP hit, and the rest int (and enough str for best weap/armor.)

There are ways to win in PVP, and to not take damage 1 vs. 1. In TW, sniping is the way to go. Mages have many situational spells which if timed correctly can stop almost all damage forms. Be the Cannon, and love being the cannon. Besides, in TW if you can't depend on your team, your gonna lose anyway. =P

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silas101
Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:04:42 AM

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3int/1con/1str
best build ever, from personal experience
at ll 105 you'll have

3120 hp/7280mp/437mg/156 average magic res/69 pdef

this is when ur naked btw, not counting your armour/weap/acces/ stats.Bad Grin
Ice_water
Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2007 4:41:55 AM
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silas101 wrote:
3int/1con/1str
best build ever, from personal experience
at ll 105 you'll have

3120 hp/7280mp/437mg/156 average magic res/69 pdef

this is when ur naked btw, not counting your armour/weap/acces/ stats.Bad Grin

When u have 5k HP u can do any thing Applause

Kanzler
Posted: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:59:02 PM
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Ice_water wrote:
silas101 wrote:
3int/1con/1str
best build ever, from personal experience
at ll 105 you'll have

3120 hp/7280mp/437mg/156 average magic res/69 pdef

this is when ur naked btw, not counting your armour/weap/acces/ stats.Bad Grin

When u have 5k HP u can do any thing Applause


3int/1con/1str or 3int/1dex/1str?
Peanut
Posted: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:22:34 PM
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What good is very little defense with no hp, when you can have bad defense and very high hp.
Liquinario
Posted: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:03:32 PM

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Let me point this out for you, you think it's wise to pump CON ?
At lvl 100 you will only have 3520 HP in total(naked) which will not cut it
You'll have about 400~1000 physical defense when you can have ~10 000 physical defense

Wutever.

> You will die vs WuXia, Werebeast, Werefox, YuLing



~ Fashis on top ^.^ ~
Marilyn
Posted: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:23:06 PM
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Pure Int fashih - No problem in lvling, Always die in dungeon,, easy to be killed in TW, can kill 20 ppl before it dies in TW, Hard to lose in 1v1 vs fashih, Wuxia yumang and yaoshu killer, Low Hp low Def.

for me pure int is the best fa shih
yumangs 2 hit KO
wuxia 3-4hits KO
Yaoshu 3-4 hits KO
Fashih- Pure int always win

whats with your HP if your dmg is low? for example a 100 con 200int fashih has 5k HP (no buffs) a pure Int has 4k hp (No Buffs)
Pure Int kills faster than a con fashih they do 50% more dmg than a con fashih

About def
Light Armors Fashih don't have con
if they do they suck they will do cheap dmg like yumangs
they should have chosen yumangs as they char

Heavy Fashihs are insane!! around 16k Def!!! BUT 100% NO CON and TOO LOW FOR INT!!! they will do dmg lower than yumangs!!!
you should have chosen a spear wuxia and spam Repeating Cannon

fashih can't be easily killed even it doesn't have any absorb skilsl (outer/inner sutra, Barrier of feathers, Wing Shield, YS's Veil, YK's sinister thorn.) but they have the ultimate HEARTH SUTRA (.1second casting) Shifting Earth(26m Teleport) and DISHARMONY ( seals enemy for 5seconds)

teleport+ Hail of doom(80% slow) then some nuke then disharmony then teleport then do it again from the start!! got n0 hp? use morning dew!!
Marilyn
Posted: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:24:23 PM
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btw in Perfect World 70% of your strenght Comes from Equipments 30% from builds
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