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k3mistry
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:42:11 PM
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pls refer to this: http://kepner.freeweb7.com/pw%20skills.html

Jhay is quite right on his post about dex vs con for a wuxia. Wuxia's primary purpose is to act as an auxiliary tank as well as a damage dealer. Wuxia's Biggest glaring flaw in pvp is a distinct lack of accuracy, all the more so for axe/hammer builds but they make up for it in terms of damage and the best aoe out of the lot.

i currently play a L83 wuxia and a L85 yaoshou on the Malaysian pw chinese server 1 and in terms of solo aoe lvlling, nothing beats an axe/hammer wuxia build.

Wuxias should and always wear Heavy armor regardless of build, jhay can testify that for me lol. Any wuxia in any armor other than HA will never get into any party for dungeons/instances or aoe parties. Light armors are stricly meant for mage type classes whose main purpose is to deal ranged dmg. Evasion is an overrated Statistic in PVE. No matter how much evasion u have be it 500-4000, u will get hit by mobs whether u like it or not and wuxias which are Melee classes which excel in close ranged combat will suffer and suffer big time if they wear light armors, try a build like that if u dont believe and reroll a new wuxia in a week lol. Evasion on the other hand is extremely useful in pvp, try pvping any fist/claw wuxias or archers with a yaoshou(low dex build) or Axe/hammer wuxia and u will know what i mean.

Accuracy is slightly overrated in pve, in pve, as long as your total accuracy is above 1k, u will more or less get an average of 85-90% hit rate on mobs within 1-3 lvls your wuxia's level. Accuracy is extremely important in pvp against dex based builds especially archers, which all wuxias save except the dex based builds (sword/Fist/claw) will lack. Accuracy can be made up with some investment into dex as well as accessories which adds Dex/Accuracy/%accuracy and weapons with accuracy and socketed with accuracy stones.

Con is necessary for wuxia, its necessary for any class in fact. You can build a class with base con and hope to make it to L80+ and solo or even do dungeons. The debate here is more con or less con. Tanking is and will never be a wuxia's main primary purpose. As i mentioned earlier, Wuxias are at best an auxiliary tank, their main purpose is to deal dmg, aoe stun(extremely important later on), provide solid aoe (for the case of hammer/axe builds) and provide fodder for other mage type classes just in case the tank dies or needs auxiliary tanking. Their main purpose in city wars are to support the yaoshous with their aoe stuns.

Wuxias are excellent solo lvllers with all their misc skills such as Vajra Sutra, Muscle Changing / Magic changing sutras, cloud riding steps / Water walking steps etc etc.

Axe/Hammer wuxias make Excellent solo aoe lvllers and they provide the best DPS in aoe situations with their myriad of aoes as well as high dmg and they are the highest dmg dealing wuxia build there is. Due to the fact that hammers/axes are the most dmg dealing melee weapons in game along with the axe tree of aoes, but suffer greatly in terms of accuracy as compared to the other wuxia builds. That though can be made up for with dex invested as well as accuracy gears. In a long protracted pvp situation, a con based axe/hammer wuxia will ultimately lose out to a dex based axe/hammer wuxia build based on my experience. Whats the point of having more hp when u cant even hit your enemy effectively whereas your oppponent who has less hp is hitting u with regularity and more crits and doing the same amount of dmg?

Axe/Hammer Wuxias Get 3 stun skills, namely Lion's Roar, Wind Overriding and Dragon Thrust(this skill is available only to axe/hammer wuxias).

Axe/hammer wuxias get 5 different aoes, 3 from the axe/hammer tree, and 2 from the universal tree which all wuxia builds can learn. they are Mountain-Breaking Sweep, RockEarth Firequake, Fiery Violent Dragon and the 2 from universal tree is dragon slash and omnisweep.

Polearm wuxias get 5 aoes too, 3 from polearm tree and 2 from the universal tree. They are Wind Speed Thrust, Falling star pursuing moon and Ice Blade REgion, the other 2 as mentioned above same as axe/hammer.

Sword/blade wuxias get 4 aoes, 2 from sword/blade tree and 2 from universal tree. Sword Ray maneuvers and All Swords Charm, the other 2 from uni tree same as axe/hammer.

Fist/claw wuxias get 4 aoes, 2 from fist/claw tree 2 from uni tree. They are Cloud Scattering sweep and dragon in cloud, the other 2 as above.

Axe/Hammer Wuxias get 1 ranged skill, Polearms get 2, i cant remember exactly abt sword/blade or fist/claw since i never trained them but if i dont rememebr wrongly, sword/blade gets 2 ranged too and fist/claw gets 1. Axe/hammer, Fist/claw basically share the same type of ranged attack skill from the universal tree of wuxia skills called Dragon Appearance. Polearms get Dragon appearance and Back Thrust and Sword/fist gets dragon appearance and soul pursuing charm.

For all wuxias, these skills Must be maxed and kept as high a lvl as possible as your character goes up in level and whenever u can get them. Basically prioritize these first whichever build of wuxia u are, of course do not neglect your weapon build's skill tree too:

1.Wind Overriding (Stun Attack)
2.Solid MEtal cover(Pdef Buff)
3.Lion's Roar(Aoe stun, effectiveness goes up in lvl as do the duration of stun up to a max of 6 seconds, Extremely important skill, lifesaver in dungeons and aoe parties and an absolute irritating skill for your opponents in pvp lol)
4.All the Sutras.
5.Cloud Riding Steps, so u can get Water Walking steps which requires lvl 10 cloud riding steps. (Absolute must skill for aoe luring, chasing down your enemy and running away lmfao)
6.Violent Dragon Slash
7.Omnisweep
8. Weapon Expertise but of course.

Dragon prance and tiger jump are useful in some pvp situations and they are only effective when maxed. They are not the most important though.

If u are gonna play a axe/hammer build, just max all the axe/hammer tree of skills when u can lol. At around L85+ or so, u should be able to have maxed all the skills i mentioned above as well as one full weapon tree, thats when u can branch out into a 2nd tree, preferably Spear for axe/hammer builds.

too many things to talk about wuxias, pls correct me if i m wrong anywhere for those who know wat they are talking about, Jhay anything to add?

pls let me know if there is any more queries because i cant think of anything else to add as it is of now. i will make amendments once i get back into the game to double confirm some of the skills from the other weapon skill trees.

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k3mistry
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:51:39 PM
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Ok there is something which i forgot to add, aoe radius and aoe types. All L59 aoes require 2 rage bars to use.

Violent Dragon Slash - Fan shaped frontal Aoe
OmniSweep - 8m radial aoe

Axe/hammer: Mountain breaking sweep - 10 m radial aoe, Rock Splitting Firequake - 8m radial aoe( not sure if its 10m i cant remember), Fiery Violent Dragon - 12m Radial Aoe (HUge ass dmg and +100% pdmg to all surrounding foes that got hit for 10-15 seconds i cant remember exactly how long).

Polearm: Wind Speed Thrust - Frontal straight line aoe, Falling Star pursuing Dragon (frontal aoe, knockback effect), Ice Blade REgion (12m radial aoe, lowers mdef of all affected targets) .............jhay correct me if i m wrong, i forgot the exact skill descriptions.

I cant remember the sword/blade and fist/claw aoes, i need to get back in game to refer to their exact skill descriptions again.

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ichigeki
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:10:23 PM
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wow thank you for posting this.
It will help a lot !

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Landy
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:12:08 PM

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Thanks for sharing. Very nice. It gives me some idea what is wuxia all about. Smile

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sprudel
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:22:00 PM
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Now that is a nice and interesting post - 5 stars thx a lot !!

Btw it seems sword/blade Wuxia are not so in common and i hear more about axe/hammer/spear..do they have a big disadvantage which we beginner dont know about it ?
ichigeki
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:31:28 PM
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You claim heavy armor is a must for Wuxia.
This takes a lot of strength.
How do you recommend to distribute your stats?
Like should I give 2 points to DEX, 2 to STR and 1 to CON each level or do you have a better suggestion?

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k3mistry
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:46:21 PM
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Sprudel - to be honest, there are much more axe/hammer and spear builds on my server than sword/blade builds...claw/fist being the most uncommon of the lot. Axe/hammer builds have a easier time branching out into a spear hybrid due to their str/dex requirements. Sword/Blade builds tend to lean towards claw/fist but can also branch out to be a axe/hammer hybrid but with very much less hp/con. i guess its all got to boil down to personal preference...sword/blade builds benefit from a higher accuracy but weaker aoes on the whole. Axe builds get one extra stun skill, although sword/blade builds in the end game..hell sword wuxias that is get a aoe stun effect added to their L59 aoe skill..all boils down to preference if u ask me lol.

ichigeki - that depends on which type of wuxia u are talking abt. Axe/hammer, Polearm, Sword/blade wuxias will definitely have more than enough str to wear heavy armor...for axe/hammer builds, as long as u have str to wield ur highest lvl weapons..u have more than enough str to wear your best heavy armor..abt the same for polearm too. the differnce here lies with the fist/claw builds, they are heavily dex based but with some tweaking, they can wear heavy armor. At best they wear medium armor, light armor is a no no...since i mentioned before..u will be meleeing and fighting from close range as well as acting as a auxiliary tank of some sort...wat kinda group would want a wuxia in light armor lol? i never build my builds with the 221 321 or 123 etc etc method. i distribute my stats accordingly to whichever is needed. As long as i get the required str for the gear i am aiming for, that would be fine. there are restats by the way even if u invested them wrongly lol. By the way, how do u wear light armor with 5 int?

landy ichi sprudel , ya welcome

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Vyver
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:55:25 PM

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Thanks for the great information, very helpfull!

I have a question regarding dex and con, which would you say is more important to have higher? Should I aim for more dex so I dodge more, or more con so I get more HP? Alot of dodge would be nice for PvP as you mention and for grinding too.
But I don't want to safrifice too much HP if I'm going to AoE alot at higher lvl.



k3mistry
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:07:19 PM
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Veg:
In terms of importance in pve, Wealthiness - Con - Dmg - Accuracy - Dodge -Skills lol.
Thats my opinion though. IF u are rich, u can afford to buy a lot of those Hp/Mp cash shop talismans/fus, then even with a much lower accuracy doesnt matter since the cashshop hp items will keep u very much alive along with all your Sutras and pots as well as how well u use them with timing. Honestly with the cash shop hp stuffs, when solo lvlling...u cant die lol....unless there is a huge lag or ping spike.

When u solo lvl, u only fight pdmg melee mobs..never ever solo aoe lvl and fight mdmg mobs..NEVER EVER do that. If u are rich, and if u can afford to get yourself a kick ass weapon, with higher dmg...u get to killthe mobs faster too. Doesnt matter the few misses here and there, hp cash shop stuffs/pots/sutras will keep u alive. Dodge as i say again ....if u have like 4-5 mobs on u at one time, u wont even notice much of a difference since they will be hitting u often regardless.

If u are asking me for my opinion, i would say first 70 lvls u concentrate on str/dex for just enough to use ur gear and rest into con. 70 onwards, go all dex till L80+ or so then switch back to con at abt L85. Thats my build for my Axe/hammer wuxia. I am using the L90 legendary 272str/50dex axe as a benchmark...which leaves me with 173 stat points left to distribute at L90 since 89X5 = 445 stat points. Dont forget if u are gonna go hybrid into another weapon..lets say spear here for example for an axe/hammer build, u are gonna need to invest in dex whether u like it or not with the help of +dex from gears..u should do just fine.

thats my build though, i m more inclined to dex in a certain way coz i tried a con based wuxia..well my friend's con based wuxia and he restated to some dex when he was L88. your choice!!

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Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:11:24 PM
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I cant say much but only things i think. So ill just say that my build is dual sword str/dex. Just enough or little more str than needed but dex much more. Can wear about any Heavy or Light armor. Heavy armor for melee fights (or archer) and Light vs. mages. Quite balanced build with evasion/hp equipment. Maby u wont be soloing at higher lvls... but at that lvl you will have a guild for party (or you have your guild that is allied to Wiki Guild hehe) so not much of a need for soloing.





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ichigeki
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medium armor? Did I get you wrong or does that actually exist Silenced

Thanks for your explaination I appreciate it a lot !

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k3mistry
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:21:04 PM
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there are 3 types of armor in the game........ZZZZZZZZ

light medium and heavy.

light armor requires int to equip. how do u wear light armor as a wuxia when ur int is at base of 5???????????????????????????????

dark: define high lvl? at L80+ u can still solo effectively as well as almost the same xp gain as compared to an aoe party. but still, just play to your preference..thats the most important!!

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ichigeki
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:32:27 PM
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* Heavy armor is mostly used by the WuXia and the YaoShou. It has the highest defense but lowest magical defense.
* Light armor is mostly used by the YuMang. It has balanced defense and magical resistance.
* Magic armor is Mostly used by the FaShi, the YaoJing and the YuLing. It has the highest magical defense but lowest physical defense.

0_o? confused.

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k3mistry
Posted: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:34:43 PM
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ok i guess i am the one who got confused.

didnt know u guys call it magic armor here lol..my bad.

i call them light med heavy armor...anyway..yea with dex u can use light armor but not the best ones though since they require equal str/dex to wear.

err ok so .. let me get used to this..light armor...ok yea u can waer light armor with high enough dex.

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sprudel
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You are talking about hybrids, does that mean some use more than just skills for one weapon and are specialized in 2 different weapon skill trees ? And do you recommand this ?

You talk also about these cash shop items which make you almost invulnerable in pve, seems like without any cash shop investement you are the underdog in pvp later on, or is there still some kind of balance even without cash shop ?
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k3mistry wrote:
Ok there is something which i forgot to add, aoe radius and aoe types. All L59 aoes require 2 rage bars to use.

Violent Dragon Slash - Fan shaped frontal Aoe
OmniSweep - 8m radial aoe

Axe/hammer: Mountain breaking sweep - 10 m radial aoe, Rock Splitting Firequake - 8m radial aoe( not sure if its 10m i cant remember), Fiery Violent Dragon - 12m Radial Aoe (HUge ass dmg and +100% pdmg to all surrounding foes that got hit for 10-15 seconds i cant remember exactly how long).

Polearm: Wind Speed Thrust - Frontal straight line aoe, Falling Star pursuing Dragon (frontal aoe, knockback effect), Ice Blade REgion (12m radial aoe, lowers mdef of all affected targets) .............jhay correct me if i m wrong, i forgot the exact skill descriptions.

I cant remember the sword/blade and fist/claw aoes, i need to get back in game to refer to their exact skill descriptions again.


"Falling Star pursuing Dragon (frontal aoe, knockback effect)" knockback effect does not effect in PvP.. hehe..
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jhaycjhay8 wrote:
"Falling Star pursuing Dragon (frontal aoe, knockback effect)" knockback effect does not effect in PvP.. hehe..

Why not ? Did u see Wu Xia win VITA fox form ....

k3mistry
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yea all knockback does not work in pvp.

honestly, without the hp/mp trinkets in the cash shop, stick to duels lol and dont go about pvping.

yes, huge disadvantage for those who dont use the hp/mp trinkets from the cash shop to be honest. But the key there is that they are tradable and can be sold off and bought with in-game gold by other players who arent using the cash shop.



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jhaycjhay8
Posted: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:44:30 AM
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wuxia vs tiger/ fox form = wuxia will win.
im a bit off topic T_T
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im kinda confused i thought with a dex baced build, u would use light/medum armor, is this right, or is heavy armor best for Wu Xia?

help ty
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