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darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:16:56 AM

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Okii
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:32:47 AM

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I'll be in if I'm still around by the time the clan is formed. I have a tendency to go through games fast, but I'm hoping to at least get to high level in this game. So yeah you can count me in.

As far as being a council member I have no desire be one. I'll make my opinions heard if I have an idea, but I don't need to be part of the decision making process.


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Sapmangat
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:38:09 AM

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Well, I would like to join council members.. If you think im well known... If not, then just move me to members Smile

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darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:23:46 AM

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gotcha =D

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Sapmangat
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:01:57 AM

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darklordryu wrote:
gotcha =D


thanks alot man :d I got a good feeling this clan is gonna kickass :P

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Cherel
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:07:16 AM

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As I stated in another thread:

Cherel wrote:
I would be glad to join the "wikipedia clan"!!

If Sanctuary Guild decided to go to Perfect World, however, I would be bound by loyalty to join Sanctuary, which is the guild my spirit belongs to.


So I apply for joining the clan. However, you must know I use to disappear for LOOONG periods of time, so I can not apply for any important role in guild management.


I think I would like to write some sort of Constitution for this clan (highlighting its relation to the wiki, these forums...). I have done it several times before, although always in Spanish.
I believe a clan needs to have a head and a core. The head is a leader or a leading couple everyone can reffer to. They are models for guildies, and can talk for the whole guild. The core is a council where all members can be heard, and it is what dictates general policies and where everything is voted. A guild with no core is a dictatorship. A guild with no leaders is hard to manage be cause of decisions being too slow, and may lack a bit of "united feeling"

I would not consider to create a council people apply for is the best for our guild, however. In the last game I played, we had a Guild Hall where our guild would come toghether and make a reunion to decide about important matters, every once in a while. All members were welcome, and encouraged to speak. The council was formed by the whole guild, as every one of us who was interested in joining this metting was there. We were all part of the guild after all, and everyone had their own problems. We would talk in turns and use "/wave" to ask the guild leader the permission to talk. It was fun, a pleasure for roleplaying, and useful, as our avatars came to knew each other, in addition to make important decissions.

We have some sort of "elite members" who were in charge of certain aspects of guild development -crafting and economy, trading, military...- and these are obviously respected and should have privileges to talk in these reunions when their specialized topic was under discussion.

I am against an elitist council with only a few members wich takes all the decisions. I have never got this sistem to work without people considering they were being toyed with, asking for more information, and not getting their interests solved. For me, the only way to make it work would be if every guild member had the right to vote, although some members -call them however you want, "senior members", "ancient members"...- could have a bit more weight, if we wanted to go this way.

Anyway, I believe these "Senior Members" (your "Council" ) should be made of:

1) Everyone who is already on these forums, as they have been here even before the clan was created, we know them, and trust each other.
2) New members who have contributed to the Perfect World Wiki in some way.

This way, we would encourage the use and growth of the wikipedia. If any new members wanted to join the "senior member" group, they would have to distinct themselves by contributing to it.

So I won't apply for a place in the Council, because I suggest another way to do things.

---I still can't believe I am the one to blame for the name of the guild xD




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darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:23:20 AM

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What I want is EXACTLY how you just put that Cherel, you really hit the nail on the head so to speak

So...anyone who wants to join the clan...READ THAT!!! lol

In the meantime, I'll list you in the members section =D
I don't believe people on the council are any more important then the other people in any way, cause it takes people to make a clan

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Lord Devil
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:48:46 AM

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Idea sounds great. There should always be a group of people be specially assigned for decisions and events etc. ! As I already said, I am usually not the one who plans raid or wants to lead events etc. So its always great to have a kind of council.

Also I like the idea with people need to contriute to the Wiki in order to earn the status of a council. Sounds fair and would greatly help the wiki to evolve.

And yes Cherel you are right, if there is only one leader it is a dictatorship. But also -> A dictatorship with a great dicator is usually the best political form you could have, sadly there are rarely good dictators out there Smile

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darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:59:41 PM

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So can we count you in for the council Lord Devil?

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Lord Devil
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:23:57 PM

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Sure Smile
darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:51:29 PM

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and can I count your first lady in as well?

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Lord Devil
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:44:38 PM

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Sure too Laughing It would be great though if the PW Clan system would have a group system... does anyone know if this is possible (putting member into different groups)? Then we could categorize the people into normal members and councils.
yama
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:06:33 PM

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I think a guild with contributors to the wiki and forum would be very good. I've also only seen nice people here! ^^ If I still play PW when the guild, and I play the version of PW the guild is in, then I'd like to join. I can't seem to get any others to try this game for now so there's no one else I'd join up with.

With that said, I don't really agree with using "Wikipedia" as the name. What we have here is a wiki. Wikipedia is a different thing. For more information, check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki

I'd suggest using just "Wiki" as the name.

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darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:54:09 PM

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That would definately be interesting
I think I read somewhere that you can have different members at various positions, like general etc...
And that affects what they can and can't do for the clan

As of right now I'm looking for places for a clan base, I'm taking screenshots, and I've found a ton of interesting places, and one that I absolutely fell in love with

I'll post the pics in a little while so everyone can tell me what they think
I'll also post pics of some of the really scary monsters I've seen ^_^

And to Yama, I really didn't know that
I think Clan Wiki, or the Wiki Guild or whatever we're gonna call it has a nice ring to it, but so does clan Wikipedia or the Wikipedia Guild

Name is something we have some time to iron out ^_^
And you're more then welcome in the guild so long as you help contribute

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Cherel
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:42:57 PM

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"wiki clan"... for some reason, my mind keeps adding "formerly known as Revolution clan" to this sentence xD

I wonder... is there any place where people can sit and talk as a round table, a stonehenge... in the game? these would make a pleasant place to discuss

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Moriko
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:46:30 PM

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Cherel wrote:
I wonder... is there any place where people can sit and talk as a round table, a stonehenge... in the game? these would make a pleasant place to discuss

My roof is perfect spot for that *nod* *fell in love with the roof*

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darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:57:17 PM

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You have to see my tropical paradise xD
Check out the thread I made in the clan section about possible clan locations

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Sakorah
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:08:35 PM

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count me in !! :P and i want to go for a council member.

for the clan name: i agree with yama. wiki is for me a short form of wikipedia and thats the first thing many ppl associate with the word wiki. and for me it sounds bit like vikings (in german "wikinger" )
i think that there will be a better name for us.

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darklordryu
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:04:56 PM

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Sakorah, I have no problem making you a council member, but what we're doing is having people contribute more to these forums so we know that the person is really into it

Contribute a little more, and we'll move you up from normal to council

Welcome to the clan, we look forward to playing with you!

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SapphireAzure
Posted: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:15:52 PM

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Count me in baby, I wanna be on the council soon!

I'm special. We just dont know what for.
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